Framing The "Debate"

A friend called me early this morning. He's a default Texas John McCain supporter, which means : He won't vote for no split tail or no negro, by God.

A day before I had ripped McCain to this Truck Driver- and explained why he should be voting Democrat for the rest of his natural born life, apparently, 24 hours set in and he forgot the fifteen damn factors I had instilled in him via reason, logic, and historical example.

He called me from his cell as he was truckin along, and he asked me if I was still supporting Obama. Before I could answer, he followed up with : "Have you seen the news?" - Now, I am a news JUNKIE. I mainline C&L, I shoot MSNBC Straight, I chase it with NPR Radio , and while I'm at it, I have a slice of Yahoo and smoke a bowl of CNBC. And I wash it all down with a suicide of various blogs. So, sitting down at my desk that early morning, I hadn't even booted up my PC yet. All I had was my morning drive with NPR's tibetan updates.

I thought- 'Well, shit! what did I miss?'

"Obama got a terrorist working for him.Yep, it's all over the news!" He exclaimed.

Unawares of what the heck he was talking about, I kinda mumbled- "I didn't see that on the news" But nonplussed, I followed up with the standard West Texas talking point- "Well, hell, Rocky, I'll still vote for a terrorist over Hillary or McCain". That got a chuckle.

"Well, I just thought you should know that's what I heard. That your boy got terrorists working for him."

He couldn't cite a news agency or details, and he had to go abruptly. I quickly got online, thinking to myself- What-in-the-fck-now?

Unsurprisingly it dawned on me that there was no news concerning this soundbite. I had forgotten that the rest of the country isn't quite up to speed on current events. Maybe he had finally heard some shit about Madrassas. Maybe he had heard about Weather Underground. Maybe he heard some uppity black preacher was badmouthing the flag. But whatever bullshit he took in one ear, didn't quite make it out the other.

All that careful conversation I had with him the day before, meant nothing now. All he heard was that I was supporting a black man over the white one. And although he listened carefully and even told me what a sorrry ass Bush was, worst President ever- a day later all that registered was that crazy ass nigga's middle name was Hu-saaaaannnnne and he won't say the pledge of allegiance by damn!

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He wants to vote Republican. Because he's been told to. But everything is shit and it has been for the past 8 years. Nothing has quite worked out like the Republican party told him it would. He just don't know. But ho-shit- It's not just a split-tail running for President, that's a god-damn Clinton! By Jesus, He'd take a bj in an outhouse with his wife holding a roll of toilet paper outside, but he cain't abide the Preznit getting his jollies in the oval office!

Not if he's damn democrat, at least! And then the other option is a half-breed! And half breeds ain't so bad, Hell this guy's grandson is a "half-breed". But this fucker is half (whisper- BLACK! whisper)

Sumbitch!

McCain is a white guy and hell he's even a War Hero. (If it all it takes to be a war hero is to be captured by a rice farmer in a paddy where you've been bombing civiilians)... So when he hears "Hussein" or "Farrakhan" or "black President" his mind is made up.

The wit and wisdom, the facts and the figures, the history and the truth isn't going to sway him.

UNLESS...

So, what I propose- is to fight like a dirty, piece of shit Republican. Do what they have done to Obama and to Hillary before him- Make up a bunch of bullshit and pass it down the line. Who knows? Knowing the Middle Amerkan dipshit like I know so well, they will PROBABLY improve on it as it goes in one ear and out their ass.

I'm sure you've heard some dirt on McCain. Well, do what THEY do, and just assume its true and pass it around. But frame it in the worst possible way to Right wingers and their ilk; Make a headline about McCain. Say that you heard it from a "reputable source" and let that fucker fly. We are dealing with idiots, slaves, and sycophants. For four years of blogging, I've laid out the truth in careful little lines only to be ignored by morons who want to know who's Britney's Sister's Baby's Daddy is.

FUCK THEM.

McCain wants to Double the Estate Tax! I read it in the Wall Street Journal!

McCain owns interest in a Chinese Nuclear Weapons facility! It was on FoxNews!

McCain called one of Mitt Romney's three wives' (the thirteen year old) a bitch! I heard it on Rush!

McCain beat his ex-wife as she lay in a cancer ward, then had sex with his mistress in the same room as she lay bleeding afterwards! it was on Drudge, I Swear!

McCain wants Cheney as his Vice President! (that might be true)

Rove threatens to blow the whistle on McCain's Bondage Affair with Condi Rice, her lesbian girlfriend and Jeff Gannon! I read it at Free Republic!

McCain secretly vows to George Bush in a satanic blood brother ritual that they will do a 9-11 in every major city until the Democrat party is no longer a majority in Congress! I saw it on Perez Hilton!

Because the horrible truth is- THESE Lies are more likely to get attention than Bush okaying Torture, Blackwater pulling guns on American soldiers with no consequences, Iraq going to hell in a handbasket, our President funneling millions of dollars in weapons to Saudi Arabia and Israel, our government allowing crooked corporations to loot American stockholders, or our military being destroyed by the Incompetent Republican leadership.

So lie all you want. The truth is far worse.

Blogger Universe!

Real Name: Unknown
Other Blog handles: Redneck Liberal, Faded
Base of Operations: West Texas, ya'll



First Blog Appearance: Crooks and Liars, 2004
Group Affiliations: MCCS1977, Blue Herald, and Unruly Mob

Topic of Choice: Government is out of control, Right Wing is ruining America

Medals of Valor: Thinking blogger award, thrice decorated, Awarded the coveted Iamsoretarded.com linkage from Archvillain Megabrad.

Special Powers: Fast typing, Profanity Specialist, ability to use True Conservative arguments in the Liberal cause to dismantle the bullshit of Right wingers. Unafraid to piss people off.

Google-Link Ability: Level 10 - Master
HTML Ability: Level 2 - Cut and paster

Weaknesses: Alcohol, Vulgar women , Truly Intelligent people, ability to piss people off.
ArchEnemy: Caveman , destroyed in mid-2007, not seen since.

History: Born in a trailer, raised in the projects while simultaneously living on weekends with his millionaire father, Fade is a man of contradictions and exceptions. May possibly be the only member of Who's Who with multiple college scholarships prior to entering high school who was a gangmember and frequent incarceree of the Lubbock jail system.

Leaving West Texas for the Big D, he escaped the confines of the bible belt and expanded his mind in college. However, his criminal side resurfaced and he became a young Republican. Returning to Lubbock, he became a board member of the corporation his father was President of. Dark days of dittoheadness followed.

Days after championing W in the 2000 elections, Fade discovered something was very wrong. He realized his political views and life were a complete hypocritical self-serving pile of shit.

Then he discovered the intertubes. He fell under the tutelage of Blog Master Actor212, who took him under his wing and tried to hone Fade's pathetic lack of html skills. After Actor212 showed him the ways of the tubes- Fade opened his zen blog temple, House of the Rising Sons.

Fade became a junior member of the Justice Blog of America (aka MCCS1977) sometime in 2006, where he learned much at the feet of Frederick, Navyswan, and Bacchus. Fade then struck out on his own again with a new House and to this very day fights crime and Republicans from this stronghold.

Absolut-ly ridiculoso

Absolut ad offends non-Mexicans

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It's kind of stupid to me. Sort of like Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants fighting over which branch of christianity is the 'true' religion for Eire.

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Newsflash- In an Absolut America, we wouldn't have Spanish Conquistadors OR English Colonists fighting over who stole the land first.

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Christians: Whether they speak Spanish or English, the heirs to Jewish mythology are the biggest Thieve's Guild in human history.

The George W. Bush Sewage Plant

http://sfist.com/2008/03/31/presidential_me_1.php

http://arnoldsandoval.com/2008/04/04/john-gibson-interview-with-chicken-john/

"We would like to basically turn every toilet in San Francisco into a monument for George Bush"

Drunken Vid Bloggin: Loverboy

They never have EXACTLY what you are looking for... But. still, its amazin how much shit "they" have...



I guess she was married to him. But as of the filming of this video, it sure looks like she is ready to make it through the night without him...



I am now in love with Rita Coolidge. Or the memory of Rita, as it were...

Bonus afterthought #1 : Kris is giving off a pathetic horndog vibe in this vid.

You know, before I started drinking heavily, I never knew how bad-mfkn-ass these guys really were..



Start me like a motor, make me run... Can you believe I'm down to the fuckin rum? I bet you can..

No matter how FUCKED UP i might get, I take solace that I'm not THIS fucked up...


and, for the record, i wuz lookin for Take me to the top, with the line "Help me make it through the night" which explains the Kris Kristofferson vid above. Couldn't find that fucker on youtube, but I downloaded the whole "Loverboy Library" (self-inflicted) while I put together this blogpost. And, full disclosure: I'm out of fucking beer.

And lest I leave any douchebags out, This one's for Maverick-



Bonus Afterthought #2: Rita, Rita, Rita.



Bonus Update 3: My wife is really pissed that I woke her up with an emergency blog about Loverboy and Rita Coolidge.

Geez. I thought she loved me.

Fafblog Back?

Or is Giblets just fucking with us on April Fools?

http://fafblog.blogspot.com/

News

Good Mammal News of the Day

From the Duh Dept -
Sex Ed reduces teen pregnancy, Abstinence does not

What kind of parents let their kid get breast surgery? Death by plastic surgery Anyone who opts for plastic surgery just to make them more attractive is a FOOL. Hell, I'm ugly, it's not that bad, really.

Another Top Notch Arizona Republican speaks: Sen.Kyl blames Democrats, minorities, the poor, and the young for the Sub prime mess. What next? Brittney Spears was behind the Bear Stearns Bailout?

Cheney on 4,000 Dead Americans : They Volunteered.

More on what they volunteered for... Prisoners of War

EXCERPT

What kept him going was the end that was in sight. He just had to hang on till his contract was up, and then he could go home, go back to school, and finally be a 20-year-old kid. Then days before he was scheduled to get out, his unit was locked down, stop-lossed as part of the surge. He was looking at another 18-month deployment.

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I find it so painfully ironic that as other excuses for the war have been proven false, (weapons of mass destruction, U.N. sanctions, ties to Al-Queda, etc.) the administration has fallen back on the most unbelievable of all: freedom. While George Bush insists that Iraqis accept freedom, American style, one out of every 100 of our own citizens are in prison. Almost twice as many as the runner-up, China. Iraq is 62 on the list, though it is unclear whether that includes those being held by Americans. In this country, there are 2,258,983 in prison. That figure does not include the 723,000 locked up in local jails. Or the 60,000 stop-lossed soldiers.

Pentagon studies have shown that each deployment leaves a soldier 60 percent more likely to suffer serious mental health problems. In support of that, as this president sends soldiers back into combat as many as five times in as many years, the U.S. Army Medical Command Suicide Prevention Action Plan acknowledges that suicides among active-duty soldiers in 2007 were up 20 percent from 2006, their highest level since the Army began keeping such records in 1980. And the number of suicide attempts has increased sixfold since the Iraq war began. There were several in the I-30 Infantry Battalion, and Goldsmith holds his sergeant major responsible. Like Goldsmith, these young soldiers are being told not only that they are prisoners, but that they are disposable. They are our children, and their deaths are on the hands of those who hold their freedom hostage.

Dept of Republican Security - Nuclear Fuses sent to Asia on Accident

"The Defense Department mistakenly shipped secret nuclear missile fuses to Taiwan more than 18 months ago and did not learn that the items were missing until late last week, Pentagon officials acknowledged yesterday, deepening concerns about the security of the U.S. nuclear arsenal."

Ligers ...

And Glenn Greenwald brings us Iraqis thoughts on American Intervention- that you seldom see on American media : Operation: Pay Attention

Anything but fkn Politics

A prominent Feminist blog posts about the joys of Competitive Cheerleading.



No, it's not a joke. It's like important, and stuff. A girl, raised by veggies and yoga instructors, with a blue streak in her hair even, like wrote it. YAY Feminism! Gimme an F!

(and just so you know, I hate ALL teenage sports equally. I don't even want my son to play football, but his mom is convinced that he's going pro... I'd rather him study and learn than roll around in the dirt and glorify such inconsequential bullshit)

The Adrenaline post in honor of my upcoming nuptials...






I am soooo addicted to this song. 'Tube didn't have the Radiohead cover of Rhinestone cowboy. Too bad...




A poem for 5 years of hell

Life
They bruised my soul with a proverb,
They bruised my back with a rod,
And they bade me bow to my elders,
For that was the word of God.

They pent up my soul and bound me
Till life was a living death,
They struck the wine from my fingers,
The passion from my breath.

I reached my hands to living,
They hurled me back into school,
And they said, "Go learn your lessons,"
You innocent young fool."

They yowled till they woke the trumpets --
And the sword blade rent the plow,
And they said, "It is your duty"
"To die for your elders now.

"They cowered far from the battle
As I went into the strife,
And I spilled my guts in the trenches
In the red dawn of my life.

And the elders named me hero,
But more than their words and ire
Was the scent of a strange wild flower
There where I died in the mire.

Robert E. Howard


This one's for Angry-



okay, maybe a little politics... Neocons in Star Wars? of course they would be living on a planet that they made into a wasteland ...

God aborts the child of a sinner - Old skool God wasn't Pro-life.

And What's a Good Friday without a Pagan fertility rite? Procreate, Fornicate, Multiply. Do it with love. or at least a modicum of enthusiasm.

6 word memoir meme - Passed to me from Liberality ... Not sure if there are rules, if so, I ain't found em... My fate:

Children- the only immortality you'll possess




(for my Steel, my Amethyst, my Amber, my Mercury... and ... something new. I'm afraid minimalism is something I have in short supply)

Burnt outtie

The past two weeks have been wild, politically. I usually would be drinking myself through the harder bits. "Hillary said what? Obama did not just go there! Quick I need a bottle of rotgut whiskey before I lose faith in mankind!"

But, since I promised my health nut fiancee' that I would go on a diet until I get my abs back, I am no longer allowed my food group of choice- Anheuser Busch. So while I am "enjoying" the first week of workouts and sobriety, I probably will be too depressed to blog in my normal good spirits.

Anyway, while I take the week off, take a spin through my Bad Influences and warp yourselves further.

and here's a few of my Favorite blogs that you need to add to your Blogroll NOW!

The Doctor is in

My Favorite Antisocial Socialite

A Distant Ocean

Da Guys - and check out their individual blogs as well

Moon of Alabama - still miss the Whiskey bar...

Enjoy your weekend-

I'll still be haunting your blog comments, I'm sure -see you around

The Dungeon Master

Gary Gygax R.I.P.

Swinebread at Atomic Romance has this tribute

Random Shiite

Be an Ornery Bastard
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Enhance your verbal repartee - I imagine this site will keep me busy for a long time...

Wallstreetfighter-humor-links-tuesday.html Traders are evil people, with evil senses of humor

LMFAO= Airing your personal life online - I promise I'll never dump you on my website, really, I won't...
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Blue Herald's News Roundup

Moses on Hallucinogens -explains-so-much...
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Good News - Evil Stifler's Mom radio show gets the ax
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Bad News - Rape in the Military

and finally, Video Brilliance. I've got to download a video editor and start mashing shit up, because you know, I'm just not fucking off enough...

Levels of Fucked up

Whiskey Dick


Beaver Enlightenment


Stuck Sober


Totally Fucking Wasted out of Your muthafucking gourd

Schnell und wütend

If you come to a fork in the road, take it!

Interesting side trips:

Terrorism and Radicalization- What Not to Do, What to Do - Comprehensive presentation on the WHYS of terrorism that was presented to the U.S. State Department by Scott Atran

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When Scientists flip-flop - Scientists discuss the matters that they have changed their minds about...

I, myself, am on the cusp of changing my mind about a personal scientific theory I've held for years. I've always believed that insects were evolved from plants. But, with each new year of experience and wisdom I am beginning to feel that my heartfelt theorem of Botanical Phytoplankton Insect evolution may have been merely a self-delusion. It's hard to let go of this gut scientific knowledge. ;)

The World's Greatest Rubbish Dump -100 million tons of garbage floating in the Pacific Ocean
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Healthcare is NOT an issue in the greater scheme of things - There are bigger things afoot. If we cannot become more self-sufficient on a statewide basis, this country will fail in a big way. Our state governments need to worry less about the federal tit and more about building a localized system of energy, food production, and healthcare. If the oil crunch came today, we would collapse as a nation.

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The Poison Tree truth about Guantanamo Bay - Chris Floyd explains that America's Gulag is just about domination. Innocence or Guilt need not be a factor.

My Love for you is like a truck...

Support your local Blogger AND receive a beautiful memento of 8 years of Pure Fucking Hell.
From Actor212 at Simply Left Behind $2 Wotta Bargain!



Buy Now before Bush declares Martial law

And remember kids, I wouldn't sell anything on my blog If I wasn't willing to blow cash on it myself-

Patterns and Waves II: Order and Form

Part I is here

EXCERPTS from Elliot Wave Principle (in black)
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"The logarithmic spiral has no boundaries and is a constant shape. The center is never met and the outward reach is unlimited. The core of a logarithmic spiral seen through a microscope has the same look as a spiraling galaxy viewed through a telescope. It is the only spiral that never changes its shape.

The logarithmic spiral further indicates that one can go to infinity in a minus quantity from any point in the spiral and one can go to infinity in a plus quantity from the same point. Both ends of the spiral must meet somewhere in infinity in the form of a circle (zero) as there is no other place to meet. Plus and minus quantities must meet somewhere, and added together give zero. Zero is never nothing; it is always something. If we start from zero, we go back to zero."

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"Within the progression from ashes to ashes and dust to dust then, there is something which meets the circumstances of awareness. Thus the logarithmic spiral spreads before us in symbolic form, as one of nature's grand designs, the image of life in endless expansion and contraction on the same plane, the within and the without sustained by a common umbilical law: the 1.618 ratio or Golden Mean.

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"History abounds with examples of learned men who held a special fascination for this particular mathematical formulation. Of course, the earliest known, and probably the most interesting, is that of the priests of the Gizeh pyramid of Egypt, who recorded the secret of phi in its construction. Furthermore, it has been reported that the Great Pyramid was used as a temple of initiation for those who proved themselves worthy to understand the great universal secrets. Only those who could rise above the crude acceptance of things as they seemed on the surface to discover what, in actuality, they were, could be instructed in "the mysteries".

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"For some then, the "light of god" has been revealed through an understanding of the principle behind the logarithmic spiral, a principle of continuous growth and unaltered form.

"It is this form which gives structure and unity to the universe. Nothing in nature suggests that life is disorderly or formless. The word "universe" means "one order."

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If life has form, then we should not reject the probability that even the most minute facets of life will have been composed and are being created in a manner that follows the same principles of the greater form. Elliott's theory "postulates that no matter how minute or large the form, the basic design remains constant."

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"Both Pythagoras, who in a self-portrait held a pyramid marked "The Secret of the Universe" in his right hand, and Isaac Newton, who had the logarithmic spiral carved on the headboard of his bed, would probably have agreed with this formulation."

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These mathematical forms may or may not mean anything to you. You may see or sense this intricate web in all things, concrete as well as abstract. And even in doing so, you may still discard these theories as useless- yielding you no greater fathoming of the depths around you.

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The Desiderata reads:

You are a child of the Universe,

no less than the trees and the stars;

you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you,

no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Patterns within Waves

One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh, but the earth abideth forever. The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the flow from whence the rivers come, thither they return again...
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done; and there is no new thing under the sun.
Ecclesiastes

The upward and downward swings of life are caused by excesses of human optimism followed by excesses of human pessimism. The pendulum swings too far one way and there is glut; it swings too far the other way and there is scarcity. An excess in one direction breeds an excess in the other and so on, and so on, diastole and systole in never-ending succession.

What actually registers in life's ups and downs are not the events themselves, but the human reactions to these events, as greater and greater ripples in the water.

And even in these greater and greater ripples, there are counterwaves and patterns that are reflected over and over again, in such repetition that one might consider them not just random reactions but components of a material lattice. Once you see past the flow itself, into the patterns that form this seemingly chaotic stream of reactions, you can find yourself enabled to create your own minor patterns instead of being swept along by whichever wave takes you.

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Jon Swift on Blogroll Amnesty Day and how to Blog Unto Others

Here are a few good lists of lesser known blogs for ya'll to check out:

Suzi Riot

The Aristocrats

Ice Station Tango

Diversions, part 621

The Greek Mythology Personality Test

(hat tip: The Poor Blogger)

My Score: The Oracle

33% Extroversion, 100% Intuition, 44% Emotiveness, 80% Perceptiveness

Heuristic, detached, and analytical to a fault, you are most like The Oracle. You are able to tackle any subject with a fine toothed comb, and you possess an ability to pinpoint nuances and shades of meaning that other people do not have and cannot understand. Accomplishment and realization of ideas are, for you, secondary to the rigorous exploration of ideas and questions -- you are, first and foremost, a theorist. You hate authority, convention, tradition, and under no circumstances do you accept a leadership role (although, you will gladly advise leadership when they're going astray, whether they want you to or not). Abstraction and generalities are your interests, details and particulars are usually inconsequential and uninteresting. You excel at language, mathematics and philosophy. You are typically easy-going and non-confrontational until someone violates one of the very few principles that you deem sacred, at which point you can fly into a rage. Although you possess a much greater understanding of process and systems than the people around you, you are always conscious of the possibility that you've missed something or made a mistake. You don't tend to become attached to particular theories, and will immediately discard mistaken notions once they're revealed to be incorrect (but you don't tolerate iconoclasts who try to discredit validated theories through the use of fallacies and bad data). Despite being outwardly humble, you probably think of yourself as being smarter than most other people. That's because you are. In fact, in your dealings with people your understanding of their motives is so expansive that you know what they're going to say before they say it, and in world affairs, you usually know what is going to take place before it actually does. This ability would make you unbeatable in debates if only you were a little less pensive about your own conclusions, and a little more outgoing. Famous people like you: Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin, Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, John McWhorter, Ramanujan, Marie Curie, Kurt Godel

Stay clear of: Apollo, Icarus, Hermes, Aphrodite
Seek out: Atlas, Prometheus, Daedalus

Love me or hate me-

But I'd really prefer if you would just exonerate me of all wrongdoing, perceived or otherwise...

Highway of Blogginess

Targa's Internet Tube has been officially appointed the Highway of Bloginess

Go forth in faith.

Is it friday? Why does it feel like fricking Friday already? Damn Holiduhs crisscrossing my wires.

It's beginning to look a lot like the War on Christmas

The War on Christmas just gets earlier and earlier each year...

Support Paganism! Don't let the Pagans Kill Christmas!

If the war on christmas is successful, then we will no longer be able to celebrate the Pagan customs that we always have!

Sure, we pagans lost the war against Yule back in 1911, and ever since we have been forced to pretend that decorating evergreens and giving presents in the dead of winter was all derived from the birth of a jew in spring under date trees.

The only people that DON'T know that Christmas is a complete and utter Heathen-Fest are the stupidest people on the planet- Christians!

But if the clueless politically correct win the war against "Christmas" we only are killing our actual heathen customs. So support Paganism AND fight against the war against Christmas!

Because what is christmas really? It's Fucking YULE, thats what, no matter how many bleating christians whine otherwise.

Christians don't click on these links!!! They may lead you to believe the world is older than 6,000 years or other dangerous facts. The truth is out there, avoid it at all cost!

Historically accurate

A most christian man tells us why we should take Christ Out of Christmas:

THIS IS THE ENEMY, MY PAGAN BRETHREN! As he says:

The most common justification that one will hear regarding Christmas is that people have replaced old pagan customs and intents by asserting that they are now “focusing on Christ.” I have heard many say that they are “honoring Christ” in their Christmas-keeping. The problem is that God does not say this is acceptable to Him! Actually, He plainly commands against it! Keeping Christmas dishonors Christ! He considers everything about it to be an abomination!

Wowzers. This guy is teh Faithful. The pros of this type of Religious guy is that he probably actually follows the teachings of Christ (anti-torture, anti-war, anti-greed) the con is he actually thinks that the end of the world is something to look forward to...

And here's a christian so whacked out he probably scares the hell out that last guy:

Christmas is Satan's Birthday!

choice Excerpt: (but the whole damn thing is excellent fodder for atheism)

He flies horned beasts (by sorcery?) through the air at night, and enters homes by means of the fireplace -- the ancient Pagans' most sacred spot in their homes. Who might Santa really be? SATAN & SANTA employ the same letters, and are in perfect order right before your eyes, and all you have to do is move the "N".

Other things to note:

St. Nicholas is The Anti-Santa! Do not confuse the holy name of Santa Claus with the patron saint of seamen and prostitutes!

Traditional pic of St. Nick with three naked boys. (Don't ask me, some church secrets I don't want to know)

Father Christmas- (for lack of a better name)

Classical images of Father Christmas:

Traditional Interpretation

AD&D Interpretation (ver.3.5)

Hollywood Liberal Interpretation

Uber Tree Hugger Interpretation

Christian interpretation of Pagan Father Christmas

Fade Interpretation